The first test for reality is with respect to whether a landing on Mars is legitimate. If it matches what NASA says abut Mars, averaging around 6.1 millbar (or pascasls), it’s a hoax. The real pressure is two orders of magnitude higher – around 511 mbar at areoid, the Martian equivalent of sea level. Depending on the number of kilometers below areoid, with the lowest pressure found in Hellas Basin can be as high as 1,050 millibars. Even if the pressure is right, as it appears to be in Figure 1 and its source video it can still carry disinformation which has a mixture of truth and lies in an attempt to make the reader throw out the baby with the bathwater. This video was sent to me from Tallinn, Estonia but I traced it to the U.S. Department of Defense.
TO BE CONTINUED LATER WITH THE STORY OF FIGURE 1 AFTER THE INTERVIEW BY DR. MICHAEL SALLA OF ANDREW BASIAGO.
INTERVIEW OF ANDREW BASIAGO ON SEPTEMBER 6, 2022. I have featured Basiago interviews by Salla twice before. Both were about his time travel and teleportation claims with respect to the U.S. Government’s Project Pegasus. Interviews are updated as I learn more. His third interview by Salla was about Andrew’s claims to have visited Marsh. I have also personally interviewed Andrew three times now. It was always obvious to me that Andy’s third round with Salla would be his toughest interview because Basiago has a minimal scientific background (he’s a lawyer). Along with my son, Dr. David Alexander Roffman, I have spent over a decade of intense auditing of NASA’s Martian weather claims, documenting obvious hoaxes and at time successfully forcing Jet Propulsion Laboratory’s Public Relations Officer Guy Webster to change wrong data (as with the never changing winds in from August 2006 to May 2007) to at least N/A or correct data (as with day length calculations which were always incorrect until David did the math), Originally I only challenged the pressure but over time I saw that everything NASA put out about Martian weather was complete garbage. It appeared that the numbers picked could just as well have been chosen by a child of a NASA official who was not likely far beyond second or third grade. It was obvious that NASA, a loyal servant of the Deep State/Fourth Reich, had no respect for educators who wanted to develop bright young minds.
In the outline below the time before each paragraph is the approximate time into the video.
Start to 00:01:00. Basiago, like other whistleblowers in the Pegasus and Mars programs was getting revenge at our government for broken promises relating to rank, pay, retirement, healthcare and other benefits.
00:03:45. The Navy ran the time program.
00:07:50. The Mars Jump Room opened in 1980. Basiago was 19.
00:09:18. In addition to Barry Soetoro (Barack Obama), Ross Perot and Admiral Stansfield Turner were also Mars astronauts.
00:12:00. One Mars Jump Room was in El Segundo, Ca at 999 North Sepulveda Boulevard. The other was in New Jersey.
00:13:35. There were time anomalies after he went to Mars. For example, he would see his father walking backward, then forward (repeatedly) for a while.
00:15:35. As part of the training program his father took him to College Siskiyous in Weed, Ca. There he met Buzz Aldrin who told him that like him, Andrew would also be going off world to Mars. The college was close to Mt. Shasta (an area often associated with UFO activity).
00:18:46 – 00:20:50. Salla asked Andrew if he was ever asked to sign a Non Disclosure Letter (NDL). The answer was “Yes.” But Basiago indicated that he did not feel bound to its terms because the Government never paid him his salary. Basiago was pressured to sign his first NDL on October 5, 1969. He was born in 1961. Basiago did worry about the Government killing him for what he knew about time travel.
00:23:35. His memory was wiped out, but not completely, after Mars trips with the help of a Soviet-type machine called LIDA.
00:26:00. He had a cyanide capsule to take in case a 16-foot tall animal or other predator wanted to eat him on Mars.
00:30:00. On the November 10, 2011 show of George Noory (Coast to Coast) Major Ed Danes called in to say that he was not their Mars training officer. Danes starting giving explanations about a possible inter-dimensional glitch. He said it could be that they were referring an an Ed Danes in another dimension.
00:33:40. They seemed to be moving back and forth between two time lines. Note: On September 5, 2022 an incident occurred in my Cape Canaveral home that made me wonder if we were experiencing an overlap in two timelines. I could not sense anything different, but our dog – Einstein – seemed really upset about a rocket launch that was schedule for 2:17 to 2:18 pm that afternoon. Einstein is a true rocket do who goes nuts at every launch here. He can feel the vibrations of each time about 10 to 15 seconds before we can. Once he starts barking we take him outside where he does his naughty bit for about minute.
This was a scheduled launch that we had waited for ever since the last Saturn 5 rocket went up in the 70s. In fact, it was to be the largest, most powerful rock ever sent up. On the night before I became ecstatic when I realized that unlike the bast majority of rockets launched here, the initial lift off would not be blocked from view by the B apartment building across the parking lot. As seen from our F building here at Shorewood, the rocket could be viewed between the A and B buildings, on its launch pad totally lit up by tremendous lights. So who could blame Einstein for going nuts? But, there was a problem on September 5, 2022. The launch, at least in our part of the universe, was cancelled at 11am. Einstein’s behavior was at the right minute, but on the wrong day.
So what happened? Maybe there was a motorcycle somewhere that my wife and I couldn’t hear, but Einstein could, Or maybe, just maybe, the rocket did launch in its parallel world. Perhaps it was a success or perhaps the hydrogen leak that it had that day caused it to blow up. the Space Review in 2006 wrote an estimate for a smaller Saturn 5 explosion, They said, “It could do so with the force of a small atomic bomb, the equivalent of half a kiloton, or about 1/26 the size of the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. Naturally, this was a significant concern for Apollo program officials.” Maybe its parallel world is a fraction of a second away in time, but some of the energy made it to where Einstein could hear it. Dogs can detect cancer and COVID-19. If normally invisible angels (who may be aliens) can be detected by animals, then perhaps dogs can be taught to report on what they are detecting. Here its worthwhile to review the short story of Balaam and his donkey:
21 Balaam got up in the morning, saddled his donkey and went with the Moabite officials. 22 But God was very angry when he went, and the angel of the Lord stood in the road to oppose him. Balaam was riding on his donkey, and his two servants were with him. 23 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road with a drawn sword in his hand, it turned off the road into a field. Balaam beat it to get it back on the road.
24 Then the angel of the Lord stood in a narrow path through the vineyards, with walls on both sides. 25 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it pressed close to the wall, crushing Balaam’s foot against it. So he beat the donkey again.
26 Then the angel of the Lord moved on ahead and stood in a narrow place where there was no room to turn, either to the right or to the left. 27 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it lay down under Balaam, and he was angry and beat it with his staff. 28 Then the Lord opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?”
29 Balaam answered the donkey, “You have made a fool of me! If only I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now.”
30 The donkey said to Balaam, “Am I not your own donkey, which you have always ridden, to this day? Have I been in the habit of doing this to you?”
“No,” he said.
31 Then the Lord opened Balaam’s eyes, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road with his sword drawn. So he bowed low and fell facedown.
32 The angel of the Lord asked him, “Why have you beaten your donkey these three times? I have come here to oppose you because your path is a reckless one before me.[a] 33 The donkey saw me and turned away from me these three times. If it had not turned away, I would certainly have killed you by now, but I would have spared it.”
Back to the Basiago interview
43:56 to 57:30. Basiago says he was briefly a room mate of Barry Soetoro at Columbia University. He concluded that Obama’s mother was not Stanley M. Dunham, that Obama was a practicing Muslim in college, that he changed his name to Obama in 1983 five years before starting law school, that he was not an African America but he was an Indonesian. Oh yes, Obama, according to Andrew, was a fraudulent president. Salla was not comfortable with the controversy that he was hearing, and he said so.
1:02:00. Unlike other presidents who were told of their fates before being elected, Basiago was also told that he would be elected president. He ran once in 2016 and only received about 25,000 votes nationwide. He is currently legally blind and taking kidney dialysis, but he told me that he wants to run again or at least try for the senate.
1:03:00. Salla says he wants to talk about the Mars mission.
1:04:00. Basiago says that from the jump room on Mars he was told that when he went outside he should run around in a zig zag pattern so the predators could not easily catch him and eat him. He mentions 16-foot tall reptiles and insectivoids about the size of a small garbage truck.
1:04:18. The insect-like creatures have 10 to 12 legs and big saber-like teeth. He reminds us that he carried cyanide to stop pain if being eaten.
1:05:29. He lived in a pod.
1:06:29. He was armed with flash gun with settings for heat, stun, or kill. But he was aware of ethical considerations.
1:07:3o to 1:08:o4. It might be better to be eaten than kill indigenous life that might cause two humanoid species to form a bad opinion of us. He witnessed a British astronaut be bitten in half, apparently just for the fun of it. Later he spoke about a similar fate for an American.
1:08:50. Salla asks about herbivores and the food chain. Basiago says there are cow-like creatures similar to those on Earth. They might have a common ancestry. The are about 30 species there. With respect to terrestrial life on Mars, what Basiago says should be compared with the Abstract for a paper published by my son and I in the Journal of Astrology in 2019:
Abstract for Meteorological Implications: Evidence of Life on Mars?
In a detailed review of over 130 research reports by over 500 scientists, Joseph et al. (2019) provides strong evidence for multiple forms of prokaryotic and eukaryotic life on Mars which may be contaminates from Earth due to solar winds and meteor strikes. What is notable are those specimens, photographed by NASA on Mars, which resemble terrestrial fungi, lichens, and sphere-shaped basidiomycota which the authors admit may be hematite. However, fifteen spheres became larger and emerged from beneath the surface over a 3 day period; an observation which may indicate biological growth or a strong wind which uncovered these specimens. Although Mars is often enveloped in dust, some of this dust originates in space and not on Mars, which supports the hypotheses, first proposed by Arrhenius (1908) that microorganisms may be attached to that extraterrestrial dust, some of which may have been propelled from Earth to Mars. Meteorological data, pro and con, is discussed as it relates to the possibility of Martian life.
1:13:26. Basiago had a breathing apparatus but did not always use it because there is oxygen on Mars. On Earth the oxygen is 21% of our air. According to standard science (and NASA) the air on Mars is only about 0.13 to 0.176% oxygen, which is not enough to support any animal life. In 2019, NASA scientists working on the Curiosity rover mission, who have been taking measurements of the gas, discovered that the amount of oxygen in the Martian atmosphere rose by 30% in spring and summer. This means that either Basiago is lying about carrying a friend for about a mile with no extra oxygen or NASA is full of crap. While I agree with Salla’s later statement at 1 hour 20 minute that Basiago sounded ridiculous when he spoke about needing to run in zig zag patterns to avoid being eaten, in analyzing what is being said in an interview like this I take it one assertion at a time and compare each assertion with what I have published before. I have a 1,200-page report about the Martian atmosphere. The issue of whether Basiago went to Mars is still somewhat open, but Mars is red because of all the iron oxide that is in the rocks on the surface. There are several types of iron oxide. On Earth iron is oxide is associated with photosynthetic life in the sea that made oxygen which combined with iron in rocks there. Note the oxygen amounts in them.
- Oxides of FeII
- FeO: iron(II) oxide, wüstite
- Mixed oxides of FeII and FeIII
- Oxide of FeIII
- Fe2O3: iron(III) oxide
- α-Fe2O3: alpha phase, hematite
- β-Fe2O3: beta phase
- γ-Fe2O3: gamma phase, maghemite
- ε-Fe2O3: epsilon phase
- Fe2O3: iron(III) oxide
1:14:00. When the interview gets tough Basiago refers to what I told him about hypoxia. When I was in Navy flight training back in 1969 the Navy put all of us in a low pressure chamber, took us up to a simulated altitude of 30,000 feet, and forced us to stay there with masks off until we experienced our first symptoms of hypoxia (about 30 seconds later). For me it was tingling finger tips. Then we put our masks back on, knowing that if these feelings ever returned while flying with an oxygen mask on, we must push the nose down and quickly get to a lower altitude. What generally happens to someone who doesn’t do this is (1) tunnel vision, (2) unconsciousness and (3) death. Basiago said his first symptoms were stiffness in legs and feet.
1:16:17. Basiago said he met three humanoid Martians in the early 70s. This was in New Jersey. They had respiration devices.
1:16:56. Oxygen in the Martian air causes the sky to be blue.
1:18:11. Someone died on Mars and lost a limb. But when they sent him back to Earth he emerged from the jump room both alive and intact!
1:19:50. It was important to control weight, because the fat attracts predators that could eat you.
1:20:00. SALLA STRONGLY CHALLENGES BASIAGO. He tells Basiago that when a lot of people hear that people are trained to go to Mars and they go there and are just told to stay in place and run around in zig zags if they are in danger of being eaten, but can use a gun if they feel ethically inclined it makes your story seem ridiculous. Note: I agree. The training described sounds totally inadequate and nonmilitary-like. That includes being given military ranks but no actual pay to accompany it. There is nothing said about a survival school. Frankly, this program, if it existed, was likely in part under the auspices of Project Paperclip, ~1,600 Nazi scientists brought over from Germany after World War 2 to start our space program. They are likely at the roots of the Deep State which is actually the Fourth Reich. It seems like with both Project Pegasus time travel and the Mars Project (the real name here is less clear) children and adults sent were likely seen by their superiors (Nazis) as mere guinea pigs.
1:22:30. Basiago says that sometimes the nearest jump room was over a mile away and hard to get to.
1:23:00. Salla points out that G-forces on Mars are only a third of those on Earth. Our muscles would have a hard time walking or running there without falling. But Basiago does not remember tripping.
1:24:41 – 1:25:40. Basiago says that the Schumann resonances are different. The Schumann resonances (SR) are a set of spectrum peaks in the extremely low frequency (ELF) portion of the Earth’s electromagnetic field spectrum. Schumann resonances are global electromagnetic resonances, generated and excited by lightning discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth’s surface and the ionosphere. Mars was like a nightmare – with snakes on the surface. This again suggests that at some point Mars was seeded with Earth life, or that at some point Earth and Mars were seeded with common life.
1:27:30. The U.S., U.K. and Russia are planning on expanding our presence there. He put the number of Americans on Mars at 1,500 but he never saw that many because of many jump rooms being used. He was never sent to the same jump room. Bernie Mendez told him that only 40 were there, all with Deep State ties. They were all full of lies.
1:30:00. He said of Courtney Hunt of the CIA that the Deep State was full of cultism and paranoia. They always lied to Mars astronauts. Note: I spoke with Andrew on September 8, 2022 about them telling him that he would be elected President. If their promise was fulfilled for the Bushes, Clinton and Obama, why not for him? He said that he “jumped the gun by running too early in 2016. He was supposed to wait for his late 6os. But he was born on September 18, 1961 so in the 2016 election he was only 55. He wants to run again, but he is legally blind and he has kidney problems.
1:31:51. Basiago and Bernie Mendez discussed the idea that their Mars trips were just simulations. Basiago did not oppose the idea and he was still open to it when I spoke to him on September 8, 2022. He was also open to inter-dimensional penetration. Salla said that simulation made more sense.
1:36:00. Howard Hughes was likely on the Mars program.
1:37:00. Salla again asks how people could be send to Mars with a lack of training.
1:38:49 – 1:40. There is a start of conversation about Martian humans.
1:42:00. If what he saw was only a virtual reality, why was there a need to try to wipe out his memory?
PERSONAL INTERVIEWS ON SEPTEMBER 9 AND 10, 2022. On these two dates I spent about 6 hours on the phone with Andrew. He can be hard to get through to because he seems to think that he heard it all from other people before. Often he tried to cut me off before I could finish making my point. More than once I had to yell to get him to hear what I was saying, but eventually he seemed to hear me and thank me for bring important facts to his attention. His perceptions were often colored by his emotions and a bitterness due to how he thinks our country treated him.
While I thought I heard him say in an interview before that he lost his sight as a result of his radiation from multiple time teleportation experiments, he was clear this time that two blond men fired a light weapon of some sort (laser?) at him that initially caused massive, severe eye floaters and macular degeneration eventually leading to blindness. He was not due to salary from his childhood time trips, but claims he was due one from his Mars journeys which end when he was about 23 years old.
His financial claims are complicated by the fact that he no longer has a copy of his DD-214 (the most important document that you receive after completing at least six months of active duty service), by the fact that he was known by his real name and an alias, by perceived idea that the government was punishing him or against him and (I think) by the likelihood that the government did not want to acknowledge that we have Americans on Mars now. A DD-214 not only includes the exact amount of active duty (which is used to calculate retirement benefit) but it also a list of all metals/awards won and campaigns participated in. This document is often used to get a job. It is difficult to image how mention could be made for heroic actions on Mars, something that Basiago wants acknowledged, when the same government will not acknowledge that we have sent any people there, and that sometimes they have to fight off human-eating 16-foot tall dinosaur-like reptiles.